zeb Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 This looks like what I think it is, however I have been told that some breakers are made for double tapping. How can I tell? These had paint on them and I could not tell. Download Attachment: wires.jpg 20.63 KB b]Download Attachment:[/b] wires2.jpg 19.54 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randynavarro Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Only breakers I'm aware that are rated for two wires are the Square D Homeline. Master Katen should hopefully confirm, correct and / or add to this statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian G Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Cutler-Hammer has a breaker rated for that too, but you'd never know it by looking at their lug. It looks about like any other breaker lug. The ones in your photos are neither, so it's a no-no. Brian G. Double Tapping Is For U-Shaped Kegs [:-drunk] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Some (not all) Square D breakers are designed to accept two wires. Theyââ¬â¢re easy to spot; the terminal has a saddle with two channels that are obviously intended to hold two wires. Remember that, while the saddle-type of breaker is designed to hold two wires, the wires must be between #10 and #14 AWG. Also remember that all breaker lugs are supposed to be tightened to a specified torque. Most breakers require about 25 in-lbs (more or less depending on wire size). But the two-wire Square D breakers require 36 in-lbs. This is quite tight. Some Cutler Hammer breakers (not all) allow two wires to be attached to their terminals. The wires must be between #10 and #14 AWG, and the screws must be tightened to 30 in-lbs. These are much harder to identify than the Square D breakers are. Theyââ¬â¢re the type CH breakers (not all type CH breakers, just some of them) and theyââ¬â¢ll say so on the small paper label just above the lug screw, but itââ¬â¢s very tiny and hard to read. Another way to tell is to look for a chart, cast into the breakerââ¬â¢s plastic body, that lists how many wires of what size can be connected to it. If the breakerââ¬â¢s installed in a panel, you can look underneath the lowest breaker on the right side to try to see this chart. - Jim Katen, Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Kienitz Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Jim, Do you have any links or JPGs that you can post that would show the various breakers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Fabry Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Jim wrote an awesome article about the topic. Write him a note and ask him for a copy..write it on a twenty and he'll probably send it you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Originally posted by Nolan Kienitz Jim, Do you have any links or JPGs that you can post that would show the various breakers? Well, here's a picture of the Cutler Hammer lug. Download Attachment: CH_Terminal.jpg 86.73 KB Here's a picture of the Cutler Hammer breaker's molded case with the instructions cast into it. Download Attachment: BreakerCH.jpg 67.95 KB I presume that you know what a Square D lug looks like, they're very recognizable. - Jim Katen, Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Originally posted by Chad Fabry Jim wrote an awesome article about the topic. Write him a note and ask him for a copy..write it on a twenty and he'll probably send it you. If anyone out there is interested in bribing me, they need only write their request on a piece of paper, then wrap it around a mint condition, 85mm, f1.8 Super-Multi-Coated Takumar lens and send it to me. This will work for homeowner how-to questions, child-rearing questions and sex advice. Electrical questions are free. - Jim Katen, Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focal Point Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 That's the funniest thing I've heard all week. Thanks Jim D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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