InspktorJim Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Several times I have seen the spa tubs with a double sided gas fireplace almost at the edge of a spa (jacuzzi like) tub. Under the fireplace, where the controls are, is an outlet for the blower. Access to this outlet requires no tools. IRC 2006 E4.103.4.4 says that lights, fans, outlets must be at least 5 feet. The distance becomes greater for luminairs within 7.5 feet. So, shouldn't this mean that to a gas fireplace with accessible electric service must meet the distances (5 to 7 feet) or be controlled by a gfci device? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul burrell Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Any electrical outlet or switch should be at least 5 feet from tub period. I would wright this up with no hesitation. Electricty and water do not mix. [xx(] Paul B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Originally posted by InspktorJim Several times I have seen the spa tubs with a double sided gas fireplace almost at the edge of a spa (jacuzzi like) tub. Under the fireplace, where the controls are, is an outlet for the blower. Access to this outlet requires no tools. IRC 2006 E4.103.4.4 says that lights, fans, outlets must be at least 5 feet. The distance becomes greater for luminairs within 7.5 feet. So, shouldn't this mean that to a gas fireplace with accessible electric service must meet the distances (5 to 7 feet) or be controlled by a gfci device? Yes. Receptacles within 5 feet of those tubs are supposed to be GFCI protected. But then all bathroom receptacles are supposed to be GFCI protected anyway. So if the receptacle were more than 5 feet from the tub, but in the bathroom, it'd still need GFCI protection. BTW, your reference is wrong. Jacuzzi is a manufacturer. I suspect that the plumbing fixture you're talking about is what the code calls a "hydromassage bathtub," not a "spa or hot tub." There are different rules for each. Check out the definitions at the beginning of the swimming pool section. E4103.4.4 doesn't apply to hydromassage baths. Try looking in E4109. Better yet, chuck the IRC when dealing with electrical issues and go directly to the NEC. It's the horse's mouth. - Jim Katen, Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Pritchard Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 406.8(B)2.C of the NEC says that receptacles can not be within or above the tub space. Also 680.71 which deals with hydromassage tubs says any receptacle within 5' of the tub must be GFI protected. If your receptacle is GFI protected it should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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