Mark P Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 I opened this sub-panel yesterday and found a metal dog comb - really makes me wonder. Click to Enlarge 91.01 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Looks deliberate. Any teens living in the house? Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark P Posted November 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Looks deliberate. Any teens living in the house? Marc I don't know Marc. I just left it there and wrote it up. It was to close to the lug on the breaker for me to want to reach in a remove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kogel Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Yikes! Sorry for being a smartass, but if the breaker was switched off first, it could be removed safely. But I see why you would not want to tamper with it. It's a crime scene! [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Meiland Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 You guys post unbelievable pictures on this site pretty much daily. It's a never-ending source of entertainment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caryseidner Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Holy Shit! This pic makes me glad I always touch the panel with my voltage sniffer first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark P Posted November 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Yikes! Sorry for being a smartass, but if the breaker was switched off first, it could be removed safely. But I see why you would not want to tamper with it. It's a crime scene! [] Funny John & True. I guess if I had any intention of removing the thing I would have thought of a safe way to do it, but I just wanted to put it in the report - kinda cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben H Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Looks deliberate. Any teens living in the house? Marc While I do agree that it does appear to be deliberate. The teens in LA must be very different from here. I'd guess 96% of them can't spell truck without help.[:-monkeyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal Lewis Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Must be the same person who put the grounds and neutrals on the same busbar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyrmnk Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Yet another reason why bonding the panel enclosure is important, and why I always touch panels with the back of my hand before opening the cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Yet another reason why bonding the panel enclosure is important, and why I always touch panels with the back of my hand before opening the cover. Why the back of your hand? Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caryseidner Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Yet another reason why bonding the panel enclosure is important, and why I always touch panels with the back of my hand before opening the cover. Why the back of your hand? Marc Because the current will cause your muscles to contract. If the back of your hand is on the panel, the contraction of your bicep muscle will pull your hand towards you, and off of the panel. Or so it is said. For me it's voltage sniffer 1st, back of hand on panel 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Yet another reason why bonding the panel enclosure is important, and why I always touch panels with the back of my hand before opening the cover. Why the back of your hand? Marc Because the current will cause your muscles to contract. If the back of your hand is on the panel, the contraction of your bicep muscle will pull your hand towards you, and off of the panel. Or so it is said. For me it's voltage sniffer 1st, back of hand on panel 2nd. Sounds bogus. The current doesn't know whether it's going through the biceps muscles or the opposing triceps muscle group. It shocks everything between the point of contact and the ground, provided that your body is grounded somewhere. Perhaps there is some other reason why someone said that. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Meiland Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 As a firefighter I was taught to check closed doors in a burning house for heat using the back of the hand... because if you burn your fingertips it's going to be a helluva lot more inconvenient. You can still work with a burn on the back of your hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyrmnk Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Yet another reason why bonding the panel enclosure is important, and why I always touch panels with the back of my hand before opening the cover. Why the back of your hand? Marc Because the current will cause your muscles to contract. If the back of your hand is on the panel, the contraction of your bicep muscle will pull your hand towards you, and off of the panel. Or so it is said. For me it's voltage sniffer 1st, back of hand on panel 2nd. Sounds bogus. The current doesn't know whether it's going through the biceps muscles or the opposing triceps muscle group. It shocks everything between the point of contact and the ground, provided that your body is grounded somewhere. Perhaps there is some other reason why someone said that. Marc Because as mentioned, muscle contraction. If you grab live electrical, it tends to make your fingers clinch. If it's a ring on the door your pulling on, you can't let go. If it's the edge of the door, you essentially grip it like a sandwich and can't open your fingers to let go. You can pull the back of your hand away if you feel a shock. I'm also a full time firefighter. The reason for the back of the hand on this is a different one than why we do it on doors in building fires. However even killing power in structure fires, I use the back of my hand on the panels before opening them, and also do it on company fire inspections prior to opening the panel door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Yet another reason why bonding the panel enclosure is important, and why I always touch panels with the back of my hand before opening the cover. Why the back of your hand? Marc So that when your muscles contract, you smack yourself in the face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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