Mike Lamb Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 I assume that old elec wiring that is no longer in use should be removed. Is there a reference for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottpat Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 I do not know of a "code" reference, but I have always recommended abandoned wiring to be removed when I find it at an inspection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 I assume that old elec wiring that is no longer in use should be removed. Is there a reference for this? Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lamb Posted June 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtblum Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 That's kind of a surprise considering the number of energized abandoned wires I've found in the past. Two the other day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 That's kind of a surprise considering the number of energized abandoned wires I've found in the past. Two the other day. If they're energized, they're not abandoned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 That's kind of a surprise considering the number of energized abandoned wires I've found in the past. Two the other day. Sure they were energized? Did you check them with a tester or did you detect them with a volt stick? You have to be careful with a volt stick because it will detect current in dead wires that are running near live wires. I've found it time and again. Imagine finding an old ham radio antennae in an attic that's simply a loop of wire, knowing that it's completely disconnected from anything else at both ends, but having your volt stick going crazy near it because it's been captured by the field given off by some live wiring somewhere else in the attic. It's a good idea to always have a secondary means of verifying what gizmos are telling you; it doesn't matter whether it's electrical related, gas related or moisture or whatever - always use a secondary means to verify. It can save you some embarrassment later on. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtblum Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Yup, I always test them with a volt stick. You have to be careful with a volt stick because it will detect current in dead wires that are running near live wires. I've found it time and again. Had that happen too. It's a good idea to always have a secondary means of verifying what gizmos are telling you; it doesn't matter whether it's electrical related, gas related or moisture or whatever - always use a secondary means to verify. It can save you some embarrassment later on. Good point. I'd rather be wrong in writing it, than not, though. Tried to get the realtor to lick the last ones. He wasn't having it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erby Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 A realtor's tongue is NOT a reliable means of determining whether or not a wire is live or dead. They've told so much bull they don't recognize it. Fun when it's live though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Our local AHJ has always insisted that abandoned wiring be clipped inside the box as close to the point of entry as physically possible. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Our local AHJ has always insisted that abandoned wiring be clipped inside the box as close to the point of entry as physically possible. Marc What code reference does he use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kogel Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Our local AHJ has always insisted that abandoned wiring be clipped inside the box as close to the point of entry as physically possible. Marc What code reference does he use? And wouldn't it be better to remove it from the box, rather than leave those clipped ends there? You can't tape it if it's that short. Click to Enlarge 50.09 KB I left my calling card on this one. It could be brought back into service someday, so I said to terminate it in a junction box with a cover. Notice the rat smears on the cable. Maybe they should leave the breaker on. [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Our local AHJ has always insisted that abandoned wiring be clipped inside the box as close to the point of entry as physically possible. Marc What code reference does he use? He didn't elaborate, just gave me a stern look in the face. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Originally posted by Marc Our local AHJ has always insisted that abandoned wiring be clipped inside the box as close to the point of entry as physically possible. Marc He didn't elaborate, just gave me a stern look in the face. Marc Around here, the muni inspectors have to provide a citation for the specific code section when they call out a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 That sure is not the reality around here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.