Les Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Are you seeing the new models yet? Does anyone have definitive or anecdotal info about replacing old models with the new sizes? http://www.bradfordwhite.com/doe-depart ... -questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Are you seeing the new models yet? Does anyone have definitive or anecdotal info about replacing old models with the new sizes? I saw one in a newly constructed home yesterday. Short & fat it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erby Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Interesting. Didn't know water heaters needed condensate removal. Am I missing something or is that because of the new heat pump technology? It's a positive that consumers will need installers, instead of do it yourself? Not sure how I feel about that one. ================== Q: What does this all mean to the wholesaler and installer? A: The implications are many for the wholesaler and installer. With the size and weight of products likely changing, costs, transportation, storage, and installation will all be affected. The new technologies will require additional product and installation training, and when on the job, new space, venting and condensate removal requirements may exist. On the positive side, when products become more complex, it is less likely that they will be purchased and installed by the do-it-yourself consumer. Therefore, a potential impact of the 2015 water heater changes will be an increase in the share sold through wholesale distribution, thereby, increasing installer opportunities. =================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Kienitz Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 I posted some information about the change earlier this year. 2015 New Rules for Water Heaters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inspector57 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Condensate may also apply to high efficiency units just like condensing furnaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Hockstein Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Anyone want to invest in a warehouse full of water heaters with me. I have a feeling they will be a better investment than the .002% interest I am getting at the bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 I think you're right. As I read (past tense) the new regs, I seem to recall this only mattered for >50 gallon capacity tanks. 50 gallon or less, it's still the same old same old. Being inherently lazy about following new dipsquat regulatory issues, did I get that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Kienitz Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Size appears to be split from <55 to >55 gallons. <55 gallon products have higher efficiency requirements that require more insulation and that is changing the size of those units to about 2" higher and 2" wider. Space is the key item here. I didn't read the details on the >55 gallon units, but they apparently have more requirements that get into condensing units, etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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