Bain Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Did the roofing gurus decide that flashing simply wasn't a good idea anymore? I see this all the time. Literally, all the time. Is it just in my area or is the trend catching on elsewhere? I realize that the subs get paid by the square, but still . . . Download Attachment: DSC04271a.jpg 173.67 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Morrison Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 I don't recall seeing something like that completely unflashed, but even if it were, its a dumb-ass roofing detail that is bound to leak eventually anyway. What is with these residential architects with their big-ass valleys draining straight into a wall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian G Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 I've seen several of those, and more all of the time. It seems that everything, everything, everything has been made a slave to the appearance of the house. They want the roofline to be "interesting" no matter how flat out stupid it is. The other thing I'm seeing lately is idiotic little flat rubber roofs used in spots where other stupid sections come together and can't be resolved. Jeez. Brian G. Style vs. Substance...No Contest These Days [:-indiffe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgbinspect Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Amazing... I've seen that on little bugalows where the work was done by the home owners kin, but never new construction. That's scary. Don't hold back Brian and Jim, tell us what you really think. [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bain Posted July 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Yes, yes, and yes. I just don't understand how they think they can get away with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Barber Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 I inspected one almost exactly like the one in your photo about a year ago that was 3 years old. I followed the path of water through the dining room corner, into the basement where the subfloor, bandboard and 2 joist where already rotted out. Lucky for me the only part of the basement that was not finished was a closet under the dining room. The builder was contacted and did the repairs but did not solve the real problem. My people walked. Tom Barber in VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob White Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 4500 sq ft, exclusive community, high dollar house -- brand new: Download Attachment: roof_flash_close.jpg 36.47 KB Roofers laid a big bead of mastic (used it like caulk) and called it flashing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bain Posted July 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Like I said, it's all the time around here. The cornice returns are the most likely candidates. Download Attachment: DSC02611a.jpg 126.49 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Boozer Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 See it all the time here. The builders want have the roof put on first to get the house dry and then brick it afterwards. Roofers usually put some cheap J channel in, but it won’t work that way and over time the shingles ruffle up when things settle. The roofing company is supposed to send someone back out once the brick is laid to cut back the shingles and install a flashing system. But if the builder is not willing to pay for a good roofing company that does this, thuis is what you end up with. Really bad deal since it normally lets water into the wall cavities where it can't get fresh air in to dry out. Every one of these walls should be red flagged except maybe Bains pic. Gets very little water on the returns, so probably just some caulk there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Fabry Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Every one of these walls should be red flagged except maybe Bains pic. Gets very little water on the returns, so probably just some caulk there. Or the return rots and falls off the house ...either way bad detail solved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Melton Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 What is the code around there? ICC 2003 states: R905.2.8.4 Sidewall flashing. Flashing against a vertical sidewall shall be by the step-flashing method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bain Posted July 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Our code says the exact same thing. It simply isn't enforced. All the time I get asked, "How did it pass the city's inspection?" My typical response is something like, "If those guys did their jobs, I wouldn't have one." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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