Phillip Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 To days inspection. In the crawlspace the blocks in the foundation was stair stepped. Image Insert: 92.92 KB Image Insert: 119.55 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozofprev Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 You said cracks were found in the crawlspace, but the pics are of veneer. Veneer is not structural but may indicate foundation problems (if it is properly seated on the foundation). How old is the home? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 With just this photo, I'd guess it is not a structural issue. Look at the pattern of the crack and size of mortar joint. Cause and effect issues are an easy trap for an inspector to get caught in. When I get as much time as Mike O, I am going to start a topic about how much inspectors are "supposed" to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Posted November 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 The house is 47 years old and the bricks are setting on the footing the blocks in the crawlspace is. I posted the photo to get comments like Les's to show some of the newer inspector that a crack like this does not mean you need a structural engineer to look at this. In most of the schools around today tells the newbies to recommend a engineer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 I think there's too much crack when the plumber bends over. I'm not sure why this crack is too much. Somebody tell me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Hi, I've seen them separate like that when it had nothing to do with settling and everything to do with the framing shrinking behind the veneer. By the way, that soldier's row under the window look awfully flat and that can sometimes be a tipoff that the framing has shrunken behind the veneer. OT - OF!!! M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dirks Jr Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Spanning off from the corners of doors and windows is more common for cracking. Each case can be different but the location of the crack can play a role in how severely it should be judged. The cracks in the pictures fall into the more common ones based on their location. Taking that fact alone into consideration should prompt an inspector to reduce the criticism. Again every case is different and I only intend to make a general statement in this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Yes, the rowlock/sill is what I was looking at. In my climate, I'd be thinking water got in, and freeze/thaw did the rest. The one over the window looks like strange shrinkage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bain Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 This is an example of too much crack for you dum-dums out there. C'mon, Kurt. Get a clue. Image Insert: 143.17 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 OK, Well, I didn't think any of you actually walked around taking pictures of folks eating lunch at the home inspection conventions. Guess I was wrong. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dirks Jr Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 That looks like a very sturdy picnic table. I think we should be paying close attention to its design characteristics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Manor Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Fortunately the bulk of the load is over a structural member, perhaps we could call it a buttress..... or butt-rest. -Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI in AR Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Man, some of you guys are harsh. I think we should at least give the operator in charge of the, uhhhh, wide load some credit for placing the load over a proper structural member which appropriately transfers the load to good ol' Mother Earth. And for the record, I saw no crack. It seems to be covered by a black form of camouflage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dirks Jr Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Yes yes, I see that. I will add that even though a sizable portion of the load is to the right of the cantilever we need not worry too much about the see saw effect as there appears to be a decent sized load to the left as well to provide some offset balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 I'm sorry, guys. Those were the only pants I had clean, and the dryer must have shrunk them. Actually, that's a picture of my good side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian G Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 I've seen houses with one or two cracks like that, and I've seen others with cracks like the first one at almost every window and door opening, and at corners. It gets to be a judgement call somewhere in there. At one end of the spectrum I don't say much, at the other I call for a structural engineer. As far as that other crack....I gotta start eating before I come on this forum. [:-yuck][:-sour][:-blindfo Brian G. Pity the Poor Bench [:-weepn] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Fabry Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Originally posted by Bain This is an example of too much crack for you dum-dums out there. C'mon, Kurt. Get a clue. Image Insert: 143.17 KB And I deleted my Oprah joke because I thought it was too lewd. Once we go here we can never go back...it's like getting hooked on crack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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