Phillip Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Hi to all. Take a look at this shower set up and tell me what you think. To me the glass wall does not have enough support and could be knocked down if some one fell against it. Click to Enlarge 31.81 KB Click to Enlarge 35.45 KB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Hi to all. Take a look at this shower set up and tell me what you think. To me the glass wall does not have enough support and could be knocked down if some one fell against it. I think it'd break if someone were to fall against it. - Jim Katen, Oregon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Moore Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Or shatter just by closing the door hard? Is it me or is that glass to glass contact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 A shower is considered a hazardous location. Glass panes install in these locations should have a designation permanently embossed into the glass by way of acid etching, sandblasting or other method. Perhaps look for that designation and research whether it is approved for use as shower stall doors. Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Moore Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Marc, I think it is a given that we know the glass should be tempered in this situation. The concern is that the homeowner will soon be sweeping up all the little bits after it shatters unnecessarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lamb Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Glass panes install in these locations should have a designation permanently embossed into the glass by way of acid etching, sandblasting or other method. Marc I wish that was true but it's not. As far as the IRC is concerned, a label can be used that when removed, is permanently destoyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Posted November 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Or shatter just by closing the door hard? Is it me or is that glass to glass contact? It is glass to glass contact. I have seen two of this set up this week and I have seen more this year than the last five years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Or shatter just by closing the door hard? Is it me or is that glass to glass contact? It is glass to glass contact. I have seen two of this set up this week and I have seen more this year than the last five years. What would happen if you were to "accidentally" slam one shut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 The same thing that can happen when you set the edge of a tempered pane on a small pebble that you didn't see on the floor; the sucker can explode from point of contact. I think glass to glass would do the same thing, given the right (wrong?) amount of force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Hi, I don't think there is any glass-to-glass contact. I've seen a number of these and the doors usually have a gap between panels so there is no glass-to-glass contact. They are made from that super strong stuff they use for see-through balcony railings. When they're mounted on balconies there are usually very few mounting points, just like there. I'm not sure how they're made but the last one I looked at looked like some kind of lamination; kind of like windshield glass if you know what I mean. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kibbel Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Frameless shower walls and frameless glass doors are not only tempered, but "toughened" as well. Toughened glass is annealed (stress free) glass that has been heat strengthened. At 1/4"-3/8" thick it's about 5-6 times more resistant to breaking than annealed glass of the same thickness. I wouldn't be concerned about glass breaking, but I think Phillip's initial concern of not having enough support is valid. Oh, and shower walls/doors are not required to have "a designation permanently embossed into the glass". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 You know, you're probably right. I see this quite a bit, I always report it, but it's never come up where someone's shower door broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_opwin Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 I do have the same opinion if some one fell against it, it could be chop down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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