Bill Kibbel Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 But watch out, I just might be your Electrical Inspector or AHJ! [:-slaphap [:-magnify ------------- Uh, Chad is an AHJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Fabry Posted November 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 While the work is certainly neat, I see NM cables too close to the floor boards, possibly conductors too small to be re-identified with tape, and also a receptacle that may limit the required work space if an appliance is installed in front of the panel. The floor in this location is over two inches thick-5/4 pine+thinset+cement backer+thinset+ marble. The smallest re-identified conductor is 12 gauge- would you please supply the reference? I had no idea there is a minimum/ maximum. The appliance thing in front of the panel- we'll cross that bridge if ever I want to install a stove or something in that location. I also would not consider that service panel to be as close as practical to the point of entrance of the service cable. It's as close as is possible. The stone walls are 18 inches thick. The SE cable turns to go outside as soon as it passes through the joist. The uneven floor surface may also be an issue. Is the drain pipe behind the plane of the panel? If not it would also be an issue. I struggled with the foundation bench issue creating an uneven work surface. It's the location of the original panel though, and it created a really nice place for me to sit while I did the bottom circuits. The drain pipe is behind the the plane of the panel and it is temporary- it directs the grey water from the washer to the sump pump pit where it is discharged to daylight in the garden. I'll have the real laundry room done sometime this winter. I'm considering not changing where the washer water goes. It's working out quite well and tales a big load off the septic system. If those are the grounding conductors leaving the bottom of the panel, it would have been better with sweeping bends instead of hard corners. Ideally they should be as straight as possible. Really? the bends on the GEC easily fall into the "acceptable" category. Straps on the PVC also seem to be lacking. Yeah, I'm missing one at the board. It's better than it used to be- before this panel was installed, there was no conduit. The individual conductors were smooshed through a 1" NM bushing. Honestly, I'll probably never get around to fixing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbaake Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 I should show this to electricians in my area who insist on putting transformers "in" the panel. Well done!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Port Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Here is the reference about re-identifying a grounded conductor. 200.6 Means of Identifying Grounded Conductors. (A) Sizes 6 AWG or Smaller. An insulated grounded conductor of 6 AWG or smaller shall be identified by one of the following means: (1) A continuous white outer finish. (2) A continuous gray outer finish. (3) Three continuous white stripes along the conductor?s entire length on other than green insulation........ I could not tell if the service cable entered the house from the back of the picture or from the right side. I would have slide the panel a few inches to the left to avoid the uneven floor. The thickness of the floor cannot be discerned from the picture. I was commenting on how close they were to the under side of the subfloor. This may have made some of the cables only 3/4" from the nailing surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manhattan42 Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 But watch out, I just might be your Electrical Inspector or AHJ! [:-slaphap [:-magnify ------------- Uh, Chad is an AHJ. Good show! But may be "an" AHJ, but Chad is not, nor can he be, his own AHJ or do inspections on his own work. Which brings me back to my original warning! [:-graduat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Kienitz Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Hey, hey, hey here everyone. Chad did one helluva job. Get over it and get off the high horses for the nit-picks. Now I will get slammed I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randynavarro Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Sheesh, you guys. . . . Post pictures of your own panels and lets take a look at them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Sheesh, you guys. . . . Post pictures of your own panels and lets take a look at them. You mean my 'bird's nest'? No way! Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Whitmore Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Post pictures of your own panels and lets take a look at them. I'd just get slammed for still having a Bulldog, and for all of the double taps I haven't gotten around to fixing since I bought the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randynavarro Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Well, I wasn't really thinking of you Marc and Brandon. More like the antagonists, Jim and Charles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Fabry Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Here's my "before" pic. Notice the C Clamp ground connection for the welder breaker. The Fort Schuyler beer bottle that likely has been there since 1976 is a nice touch. Click to Enlarge 71.07?KB Randy and Nolan, I never dreamed for a moment that I would escape unscathed when I posted the picture of my new panel, but thanks for the love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Port Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 No malice was in any way intended by my comments. I was pointing out possible issues in regards to the pic I say posted. Some Chad addressed and some are still code issues like the uneven floor. I was commenting the same as an electrical inspector would examine the work. The comment about the grounding conducotrs is about functionality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erby Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Ah, it's all OK. Chad's got REALLY thick skin, covered with sheep wool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Hockstein Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 The elecrical work is great. I am distracted by what you got growing in your basement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plummen Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 Inside of panel looks nice but around here all the romex on outside of panel and atleast above floor joists would need to be in pipe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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