Jerry Lozier Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Never seen a lap at valley quite like this, besides being lapped wrong looks like a blind guy with a hatchet trimmed the shingles. 5 year old home. They seemed to be sealed down ok, but bunches of nails in center of shingles... geeeeez Click to Enlarge 31.38 KB Click to Enlarge 26.27 KB Click to Enlarge 77.44 KB Click to Enlarge 82.33 KB Click to Enlarge 62.82 KB Click to Enlarge 77.69 KB Click to Enlarge 77.26 KB Click to Enlarge 76.78 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 How'd you write it up? Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lamb Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 I don't suppose you could peek under the valley at the eaves to see if their was an ice and water shield. Anybody who could produce such a thoughtless disregard for valley roofing instructions had to have messed up the all important details beneath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Lozier Posted June 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 I don't suppose you could peek under the valley at the eaves to see if their was an ice and water shield. Anybody who could produce such a thoughtless disregard for valley roofing instructions had to have messed up the all important details beneath. yes, I & W shield was there at least what I could see at the eaves... don't know if it extends up the valleys Have not written report yet but will probably say something to the effect: Substandard installation of valleys, standard is to cut laminate shingles 1-2" before the bottom of the valley and not after top layer of shingles has gone up the other side. ... That being said current installation is aesthetically (ugly) however probably will not drastically reduce the water shedding ability of the valley (monitor for debris build up) IF the underlayment, ice and water barrier and lower layer of shingles were properly installed. (inaccessible for full view). Best recommendation is (a different and licensed roofer) install the valleys correctly blah blah What else?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inspector57 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 We usually blame thoughtless errors on work being finished at "beer thirty" but that looks like he must have done the work at midnight after finishing off a six pack or two! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kogel Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Probably a greenhorn that's never worked in the rain. There are overexposed shingles in all the pics. I would be nervous about that roof. I think it should all be replaced, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Whitmore Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 He used a nice shingle stretcher as well......(exposure issue?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 I contracted in a fair number of shingle replacement jobs before becoming an inspector. I've seen how deteriorated the underlying layer of shingles (and decking) was on multi-layered roof coverings. Humidity becomes trapped between the layers and quickly rots the underlying layer. Jerry's situation is similar. I'd be writing up that the valley might fail prematurely because the shingles were not properly installed there and moisture is likely trapped between the overlapping layers. Cut the shingles back a couple inches away from the center of the valley so rainwater can drain like it should. I know Jim doesn't like the word 'might' but there remains the possibility that the Ice & Water Shield will protect the valley until the remaining covering expires. I just don't trust it. I've seen Grace I&WS exactly once here in 9 years. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 It's simple. The roof valleys are done wrong and won't drain properly. Have a competent roofer - not the incompetent that did this cover - tear out these valleys and redo them correctly. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Amaral Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Yep.. Simple is better.. "Valleys are roofed improperly with edges of material facing upslope, contrary to normal practices. Leakage could possibly result. Have those areas re-roofed in the proper manner to prevent leakage". Do an Albert King solo, not an Al Dimeola solo.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Fabry Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 The kid was confused when he was told to cut the shingles two inches above the valley center line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Raymond Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 He must also have thought the 'nail' line was his exposure line. I'd call for a new cover. I don't want the call when much of it blows away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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