DonTx Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 To me, it looks like the electrician does not plan on grounding the snap switches and dimmers. I don't understand why there are neutral wires wire nutted to the ground wires though. Can someone explain? Donald Download Attachment: IMG_0059.JPG 47.45 KB Download Attachment: IMG_0060.JPG 40.42 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisprickett Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 Donald, Those neutrals (that are tied to the grounds) aren't coming from the box. Where are they going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonTx Posted May 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 That particular gang switch was for the living room. I suspect two are going to the ceiling fan/light fixture. I have no idea where the other one is going. Possibly to another light fixture? Donald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian G Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 Man, that is some screwy-looking wiring. Just looking at that makes my low-level alarm start vibrating. Brian G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terence McCann Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 Looks like a bootleg ground Don. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 Originally posted by Donald Lawson To me, it looks like the electrician does not plan on grounding the snap switches and dimmers. I don't understand why there are neutral wires wire nutted to the ground wires though. Can someone explain? Donald He's planning on using the white wires (that are nutted to the bare wires) for grounding the three switches. These should, of course, be either bare copper or green. Also, that green wire nut may not be rated for six #14 wires. (Brian G. might know how many wires those things can take.) Other than that, it looks fine. - Jim Katen, Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Fabry Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 The wires are outside the box, like Chris said. Maybe he's just temporarily powering up some circuits to use during construction. It's not a permanent installation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonTx Posted May 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 Thanks everyone, Chad, this was a phase construction inspection. These wires were only roughed in. They are typically wadded up and shoved back into the box until the snap switches or dimmers are installed later. I always try and pull some out to make sure the grounds are there. It's not uncommon here for the snap or dimmers switchs to not be grounded. Donald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Fabry Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 Don, The only other thing that could be going on is they pigtailed those whites to be the ground for the three devices that are going to reside in the box. There's no reason to bootleg a ground.. the ground is there. If those three white wires (that are bonded to ground) were bare, it wouldn't raise an eybrow. Is the color the issue? I'm confused..what was the question? From here down is an edit: I just read Jim Katen's reply so I'll summarize mine. What he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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