Denray Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 My son was up at his girlfriends house and the sliding glass door was leaking from its top into the interior. He sent me these photos. Click to Enlarge 90.9 KB Click to Enlarge 61.58 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Not surprising. That top J-channel is supposed to fold over a side J-channel at either end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denray Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 So, that's not even the right piece to be used for that horizontal section. It's just directing water into the siding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Whitmore Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 So, that's not even the right piece to be used for that horizontal section. It's just directing water into the siding. Correct. There should be J channel at the top and sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 So, that's not even the right piece to be used for that horizontal section. It's just directing water into the siding. No, I think it's the right piece, but there should be two other pieces on the sides. the top one should be cut and bent over at either end to lap over the side pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dirks Jr Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 To add to the J-channel question. What is the specific way it should be cut and lapped at the corners? My point is, even if the side portion is there, it has to be cut correctly to make the water stay on the outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 To add to the J-channel question. What is the specific way it should be cut and lapped at the corners? My point is, even if the side portion is there, it has to be cut correctly to make the water stay on the outside. http://www.vinylsiding.org/PUBLICATIONS ... nglish.pdf figure 33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericwlewis Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 page 21 has z flashing depicted. I don't see any in the pics... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete moss Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 it is there. requires reading..... Trim J-channel is used around windows and doors to receive the siding. Follow the steps below when applying trim. ?? Cut and bend the tab of the top piece of J-channel down to provide flashing over the side J-channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Page 21 shows J-channel used above a head flashing and the head flashing is notched at the side so that the J-channel can be folded through the head flashing onto the side J-channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denray Posted January 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Per pg 21 looks like all the J-channel is just for hooking up the rest of the vinyl trim, which really isn't much of a flashing. More just for connecting vinyl siding and trim. All the real flashing is the aluminum or vinyl trim sheet behind it. So back at my kids house, it's just Mr. Handi trying to do some sort of flashing thing with some kind of vinyl thing on a window that was never flashed right to begin with. And now the flash thing catches water and delivers it to the interior. I recommend they give the landlord a heads up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Raymond Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 As dicked up as that is, I'd wager it isn't where the water is getting in the wall. When that kind of poor detailing leaks the damage is almost always at the corners. When water is dripping from the top of a door or window the leak is well above the unit and coming out at the first available opening through the wall. Whoever goes out to fix that needs to look up above the door and figure out what else is fooked up. How is the recovery going Denny? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denray Posted January 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Click to Enlarge 17.56 KB I'm not supposed to lift more than 10lbs so I'm pretty weak up top. I've been able to walk and ride a stationary bike. A little while back I also got some stomach exercises to do. The doc at one time said something like I could do crawl spaces at the one month mark if my family depended on my income, but he didn't recommend it? The guy is nuts. I think that the crawl space under the doc's house has a wine cellar in the corner. 2-22 I go in for final CT scan and hopefully get rid of the brace for good. I tried to help look over a house for my brother-in-law and I couldn't even look under the garbage disposal with the brace on. I did take folks advice and read a bunch of installation manuals, which was good. My wife is an independent claims adjuster and a few years ago I got the license for it so she could quit the place she was working for and work out of our home. I've been doing a bunch of CE's to keep the license lately. My neurologist Dr. is 150 miles away in Redding, CA. and there is pretty much no getting a hold of him for questions. So I write, things like can I start doing this and that kind of exercises. I get no response. He probably thinks, "hey old man just retire". I probably have the wimpiest back fracture one can get and instead of being happy and thankful about that I feel like I have to live in a PVC pipe. Other than that it is a blast. I haven't figured out what the blessing is yet either? There has pretty much been no pain as long as I treat myself like I have a glass spine, which I do. P.S. that is not me in the photo, only my spirit. Good one though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erby Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Glad to hear you're getting better. Injuries are scary things. On the flashing: You should have this flashing installed BEFORE the vinyl and J-Channel. You should be able to see the edge of the flashing hanging over the door top under the J-Channel. Click to Enlarge 18.23?KB Taking a second look at the picture, is that vinyl siding or cement fiber siding. Looks more like cement fiber siding with the door trim installed on top of it. Still don't mater. Should look similar. Click to Enlarge 36.36?KB Bet the majority of the water is coming in right here at the red arrow. Click to Enlarge 31.38?KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericwlewis Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 It's vinyl, take a look at pic #1 of the OP. You can see the lock joint visible between every other course. The problem is WE know how to install it correctly but the installers and builders either don't know or don't care...[:-thumbd] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denray Posted January 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Thanks guys. Just got back from a long walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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