inspector_anatol Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Original ITE panel At least they kept the aluminum away from the copper... So how many neutrals can you fit into one terminal??? Click to Enlarge 52.9 KB Click to Enlarge 68.1 KB Thanks for looking Anatol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Right, shouldn't have more than one conductor per terminal, but that's not the big fish in the photos. The big fish is the aluminum conductors. There was discussion in this forum on that topic recently. Check it out Anatol. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kogel Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 It looks like he nicked those Al wires as well in the process of stripping off the insulation. This makes matters even worse, creates a hot spot which has been weakened. You probably saw the double taps above the bus, that's another major bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inspector_anatol Posted March 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 The double taps were for a surge protector installed in the panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Davenport Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 The double taps were for a surge protector installed in the panel. Still not allowed unless the terminals are listed for more then one conductor. That one is not listed for more then the one conductor, so it's wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dirks Jr Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Anatol, Here is a document I use in my reports sometimes. It helps explain the doubled neutrals part of the issue. The doc is hosted at my server and it will always be there in case you ever want to insert the link into a report. http://home.comcast.net/~marylandhomein ... rounds.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Anatol, Here is a document I use in my reports sometimes. It helps explain the doubled neutrals part of the issue. The doc is hosted at my server and it will always be there in case you ever want to insert the link into a report. http://home.comcast.net/~marylandhomein ... rounds.pdf It's curious that Jim Pauley doesn't mention 110.14(A) in that blurb. It contains language that requires terminals for more than one conductor to be so identified. It and its forebears have been in the NEC for decades. In my opinion, it's a much stronger argument than 110.3(B). - Jim Katen, Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inspector_anatol Posted March 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Thanks for the replies, I noted all of the defects in my report including improper panel cover screws, just wanted to share the pictures with like minded folks. Anatol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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