John Dirks Jr Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 I could not see these lentils extend into the masonry. Is it possible that the builder notched the ends so the mortar would hide the extension over the edge? It looked like they stopped right at the corner. How should I approach this? Click to Enlarge 57.19 KB Click to Enlarge 56.71 KB Click to Enlarge 34.38 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kibbel Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 How should I approach this?Step 1: Learn the proper name of building materials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Lintel. Lentil's a legume. Tell the folks the lintel looks like it stops short of the supporting masonry; it could settle/move/inadequately support, etc. It looks like someone put a little bead or tuck of mortar in there; someone trying to mimic a lintel in mortar? How old's the house? You could tell them it lacks flashing and weeps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terence McCann Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 How should I approach this?Step 1: Learn the proper name of building materials. You're a bad man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dirks Jr Posted June 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Lintel. Lentil's a legume. Tell the folks the lintel looks like it stops short of the supporting masonry; it could settle/move/inadequately support, etc. It looks like someone put a little bead or tuck of mortar in there; someone trying to mimic a lintel in mortar? How old's the house? You could tell them it lacks flashing and weeps. The house is still within it's 1 year warranty period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dirks Jr Posted June 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 How should I approach this?Step 1: Learn the proper name of building materials. I googled it befoe I posted because I wasn't sure. Many other made the same mistake and I followed them. Duh...oh well. http://www.google.com/search?q=lentil+f ... lz=1I7DKUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kibbel Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 I googled it befoe I posted because I wasn't sure. Many other made the same mistake and I followed them. That's why as professionals, we should look for authoritative sources. Google indexing doesn't have a load-o-crap filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 1 year old? Where's the flashing/weeps/wicks? Tell the folks it's screwed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Whitmore Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 It looks like there's a weep hole, but no through wall flashing in that one picture. It sure looks to me like the lintel was slightly covered with mortar, but I wasn't there. Did you try to chip away a small piece of mortar to see? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dirks Jr Posted June 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 I thought about chipping but that might have knocked out more than intended so I decided not to. I feel pretty good about calling the suspicion from what I saw and recommending follow up by a qualified contractor. The weep holes were there. In this area at least, I've seen partially constructed veneer where they use a rubber like membrane instead of the through wall flashings. It hangs down the wall and curls under and between the mortar joints just below the weep holes. In a completed structure, you cant see it. In the partially constructed units I had seen prior, I could look behind the veneer from the corner of the structure and see all the ties and membranes. Even though I cant see those details, it doesn't mean they're not there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dirks Jr Posted June 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 Could it be Grace that they install behind brick veneer to direct moisture to the weeps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 Even though I cant see those details, it doesn't mean they're not there. Well, yes it does. It's called through wall flashing for a reason. If you can't see the "details", they're not details. Where's the end dams? The mason did his own take on the methodology, similar to what they do here. Tell folks it's wrong, explain why, and reference the multitude of material out there to support your statements. If they want to disagree, show them the reference material. If they still disagree, that's their prerogative. Yes, Grace can be used for flashing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bain Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 I'm with Brandon. In the second photo, it absolutely looks like the lintel extends well into the mortar joint and was slightly glazed for aesthetic reasons. As for the weephole, that's what they look like around here when installed post-construction with a drill and a masonry bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgbinspect Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 When you see weeps like this, it usually isn't done with a drill and bit. Nylon cord was laid into the masonry and pulled out just before the mortar actually sets too hard. It's really all that's needed as opposed to leaving out entire head joints. And, it's a lot better way to ensure that the drain path isn't clogged up by mortar droppings during installation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erby Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 It might be a weep hole with the wick removed but, like Bain, I've seen a LOT of "drilled" weepholes around here. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgbinspect Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 Amazing... That's a lot of work that I can only imagine anyone ever performing if they forgot them. It's way too labor intensive to be economical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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