There's your key right there, credible. With the ease of the computer age, a lot of dumb asses are writing "uncredible" stuff that really confuses the issues. Yeah, I really meant uncredble but it's also uncreditable. I like Wayne's response. Just push the dang thing back in place. If I absolutely have to mention it, like when it's missing, I just tell them "The escutcheon (the little ring that should be around the shower pipe) is missing. It's a decorative thing to cover the hole in the wall. If you don't like the way it looks without it, install one." Seldom makes the report though. - -