Mark P Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 The cover to the main electrical panel cannot be removed without removing the railing for the overhead garage door. The railing actually touches the panel and there are screws in the top holes. The door cannot be closed and there are screws behind the open door. The cover to the subpanel cannot be removed without removing the cover to the main panel. Click to Enlarge 51.13 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Why contractors want to put their name on such work is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Just cut out that section of the garage door track. It'll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlparham Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Just cut out that section of the garage door track. It'll be fine. Don't forget to screw the rail section back in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim5055 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 I blame crap like this on the GC or whoever is overseeing construction. While I'm sure not as much as you guys, I have been on many new construction sites through the years. One trade does not care about the trades who follow him in installation. They only care about gettin in and getting out. Too many times the last guy has to do something stupid because an earlier trade didn't care or wasn't told what would follow. When thinking about the wood structure of a house I sometimes wonder which is worse, termites, electricians or plumbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI in AR Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 In response to Tim, I have to say that I'd like to know the whole story. I suspect a remodeling with significant DIY involvement. Or it could be a "low bidder" remodeling job. Either way is just as bad. I was a homebuilder for 24 years and while part of the reason I walked away is that subs do dumb stuff, I have never known an electrician that would choose to place a panel high on a side wall. It's wrong and stupid, but if we assume that it was done during initial construction it's not likely if for no other reason than the simple fact that it would have to have been done while on a ladder. Who would CHOOSE to do that and make the job harder? Judging from the patched drywall around the box, all the twistouts removed without breakers in place, and the fact that it's a surface mount box instead of a recessed one, I have to assume it's some sort of remodeling job, not a panel placed during construction of a new home. I also would bet that it wasn't likely done by a real electrician. What were conditions inside of the box and what did the rest of the job look like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Baird Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 ...worst I have ever seen... Raise heck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark P Posted February 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 The house was built in 1958, 3 bedroom 1 bath and a finished basement. The panel is obviously not the original, but is in the original location, which happens to be in the garage. The garage door track is older than this panel. I could not see why it was not mounted lower. There will be a city occupancy inspection. I'd love to hear what they have to say about it - if anything. Some jurisdictions remove the cover to look inside the panels, some don't. On another note there are bedrooms above the garage. Most likely when the home was built there was no fire separation between garage and living area and the drywall on the ceiling was added later (recently most likely). They left a gap in the ceiling for the center guide rails for the two garage door openers, so nice try but no cigar. Click to Enlarge 35.7 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lamb Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 This is new 200 amp service. Someone had to remove the kitchen wall cabinets, hack out the back, and rehang them without the panel cover. Astonishing work. Can't wait for someone to put away the dishes. The service drop in the back yard was about 6' above grade. Click to Enlarge 47.15 KB Click to Enlarge 59.46 KB Click to Enlarge 79.94 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Baird Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Jawdropping, Mike. Here's what I think happened, because cabinets look so new as to be part of a general kitchen remodel. GC did not coordinate cabinet man and electrician. Electrician installed panel in bare-walled kitchen before cabinets arrived, while pretending not to notice clearance to grade outside. Cabinet man arrives and hatchet-jobs his install (at least he opened the panel door for you) in order to get outa here and paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lamb Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Here's what I think happened, because cabinets look so new as to be part of a general kitchen remodel. GC did not coordinate cabinet man and electrician. Electrician installed panel in bare-walled kitchen before cabinets arrived, while pretending not to notice clearance to grade outside. Cabinet man arrives and hatchet-jobs his install (at least he opened the panel door for you) in order to get outa here and paid. That's probably right. The protective breaker cover from the panel is missing and gone. It would make sense the electrician installed it but ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erby Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 Had one like that in an old farm house, years ago! After removing one shelf, I was able to lift the cardboard panel cover and get a look inside! Click to Enlarge 41.49 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy Petey Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Thing is, if it is that high to be blocked by the damn GD track I'd bet that the highest breaker is more than 6'7" off the floor. Just add that to the long list of violations. Also, it is extremely unfortunate how many panels I see inside, or blocked by, kitchen cabinets. Some people have no scruples and should simply NOT be doing construction work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 I had one yesterday that had the main breaker about 7' off the garage floor. Anyone know the chapter/verse related to that? Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kibbel Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just referenced it yesterday - 240.24A. They built a platform but the main breaker is still a bit too high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 I had one yesterday that had the main breaker about 7' off the garage floor. Anyone know the chapter/verse related to that? Marc 240.24(A) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Thanks. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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