Chad Fabry Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 I am not terribly productive using a report system. I'm writing 99% of each report anyway: I want to become a Word guru. College or online is the question. Keep in mind that I'm not yet at the beginner level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homnspector Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 I see a guy advertising on TV alot for free courses on CD (probably $10 s&h but still maybe a good deal). Next time I see it I'll write it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bain Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Hi Chad, I actually created my own reporting system using Word. You can create tables, drop-down lists, and text boxes in which verbage can be entered. I like doing it myself 'cause when something has to be added, deleted or changed, I can do it myself. I'm happy to answer any questions you may have. I'm certainly no guru, but I know my way around Word pretty well. And once I'm finished, the .doc can be converted to a .pdf so no one can screw with it. I'm happy to zap you a .pdf of a completed report if you'd like to check it out. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Hi Chad, Like you, I tend to type everything. In fact, it doesn't matter how many times I write a piece of boilerplate, I still seem to ignore it and go with my flying fingers. However, I have heard that if you learn all of the macro tricks and key shortcuts in Word, versus using the mouse, that you can save a ton of time compiling a report. Seems to me that Walt Jowers used to have a list of keyboard shortcuts he used for his word based reporting system. Anyone have a copy? ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Word blows. And sucks. All @ the same time. The current thinking about how reports should be put together is totally off track, in my humble opinion. I have a different path you may be interested in; shoot me an email to talk about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 We have considered Kurt's idea (concept) and I am flabbergasted how the conversation went in this office. Don't want to give it away, but every inspector thought it was a good concept. My wife, the real estate broker, thought it would work and be very progressive and helpful to her business. I must tell you I have not talked to Kurt, but kinda' know what he has done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADAIR Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Chad, I think this is what Fritz was talking about This is very prescriptive and takes you step by step. Try before you buy! https://www.videoprofessor.com/index.cf ... undleId=22 Good Luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Originally posted by Les We have considered Kurt's idea (concept) and I am flabbergasted how the conversation went in this office. Don't want to give it away, but every inspector thought it was a good concept. My wife, the real estate broker, thought it would work and be very progressive and helpful to her business. I must tell you I have not talked to Kurt, but kinda' know what he has done. Thanks. It ain't a secret 'cuz I was blabbing it all over the ASHI board, but I kinda wanna keep it simple until I blow everyone away w/it. Let's all act like I didn't say anything until everyone has a copy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erby Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Chad, Click on the help icon and then search for "keyboard shortcuts". You'll find a ton of them. However, remember that WORD is a WORD PROCESSING program. You'd be far far better off with a DATA PROCESSING program like Filemaker. $299.00 for the full version at: http://www.filemaker.com/products/index.html You can then not only type your reports, but keep your data readily organized and available in searchable or sortable format. You have to learn a program either way. Learn one that will benefit you the most in the long run. Talk with Kurt. You won't regret it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 What Erby said. Forget word processing, especially in Word. Too many words, not enough information. I've been using Filemaker since 1985, and it is, plainly & simply, the most amazing software on the market. And, it's cheap. I've run my entire business out of it for 20 years. And, best of all, it ISN'T A MICROSOFT PRODUCT!!!!! I'm going to looking for beta testers in a couple months, once I work the last bugs out of this thing. Interested parties email me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bernhardt Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 I write every thing in word too. I use to broiler plate but I began to find that I was spending more time trying to find just the right broiler plate so I gave up and have found it faster to just be a faster typist. I have carefully considered macros and the such but what happens is if you have to move a hand to a mouse then you probably could have just typed it out in the same time. Any macros or boiler plates must be within 1 or 2 mouse clicks otherwise its faster to just type things out. I don't know what Kurts working on. Im curious. But one of things that I have found is that in my market the clients and the agents need a hardcopy in thier hands when they go to sit down and hack out a repair addendum. And everyting needs to be said in the monograph of each item and not spread out somewhere else in the report or referenced on the internet etc. I like the idea of web based report but it is not practical for a couple reasons. One that I described above and the 2nd is that a lot of my clients are latino, asian and russian and don't read enlish that well or are not online. Chris, Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Has anyone here ever tried a voice recognition program like naturally speaking by dragon,inconjuntion with a word processor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terence McCann Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Originally posted by chicago Has anyone here ever tried a voice recognition program like naturally speaking by dragon,inconjuntion with a word processor? I have albeit a while ago. I found that you had to repeat yourself, sometimes alot, to get one word in like Finger, Fiiiinnnnnger, Finger, ah (#*^ it. They may have gotten better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Dragon has gotten a lot better, but it's bad for home inspectors because it tends to make one do what HI's are already bad at, and that's saying too much about really simple stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Hi, This came in the daily feed from ZDNet this morning. Check it out. http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-10877-6092163.html OT - OF!!! M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Fabry Posted October 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Good Link Mike, Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Morrison Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Word does everything any home inspector needs. Actually, it can do everything but impress Kurt, but how often does that happen anyway? I've been using it exclusively for years. I'm sure that good reports can be spat out by just about any hunk of software out there. The person using the software is what makes all the difference in the world. Find something you like and can customize and stick with it. That said, I've seen Kurt's setup (slick and neat) and am very interested in checking out the newest version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homnspector Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Another nice link. I too have been down this road, now you have me wanting to try it again. Kurt, I am assuming your system is database based like 3D. Have you messed with Alpha 5 software? The learning curve is long but it is pretty cool and fairly cheap. http://alphasoftware.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Originally posted by Terence McCann. . . I found that you had to repeat yourself, sometimes alot, to get one word in like Finger, Fiiiinnnnnger, Finger, ah (#*^ it. Fortunately, it recognizes "Ah, #*^." - Jim Katen, Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 That's funny. It's not that Word doesn't work. It works fine. It's the time that makes it a problem. How can anyone go out and on a daily basis, year after year, crank out Word documents? Burnt me to a crisp..... After that, who the heck wants to read endless narrative about boring stuff? No one I know, and definitely not my customers when they're already stressed out w/the realtor structured confusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Baird Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 John, I, like many, have fallen into e-mail as the easiest, quickest way to deliver the product. I too slog along through Word, which is where all my experience is. The e-mail delivery has resulted in some formatting problems, though. Things like page layout get tossed around sometimes, especially with text boxes and the like. So I have simplified my format to eliminate that crap, with nothing fancier than paragraphs and a "pleading" numbered format, and it seems to get through better. Does the PDF conversion etch it all in stone as far as page appearance? Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Hi, Save it as a file and then, instead of clicking send to receipient as an email, click send as an attachment and your formatting will not change at all. OT - OF!!! M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bain Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Hi Jim, Yes, conerting a Word .doc into a .pdf file preserves the tables, graphs, text, and everything else. That's really the purpose of a read-only .pdf file---once created, it can't be changed without a password. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Yes, However, when I occasionally convert my word files to pdf I've had some pdf converters change my fonts or the layout of the text a little bit and that just bugs the hell out of me. You can send your word files password protected as a read-only document. In word, click "tools" and then "options." This will drop a work folder. Choose the "save" tab and then you can protect the document by creating a password to open it, a password to modify it or both. Since with most home inspection reports you aren't going to want anyone to monkey around with it, you'd create a password to modify it that only you would know and if you were concerned that someone other than your client might have access to the client's e-mail and would be nosing around in the report, you could password protect it so that only your client would know how to open it. It works, believe me. Just don't be dumb like me and not have a system in place when you do assign passwords. I was dumb enough to password protect a document once without recording its password, using a password that I'd easily and automatically remember or with a system that would key my memory and prevent me forgetting it. I went back to it a couple of weeks later to work on it and couldn't get into it to save my a**. Tried for hours and hours and absolutely nothing worked. All that work down the drain! I finally had to cave in and re-write the whole document from scratch and it took forever.[:-banghea[:-gnasher[:-headach[:-weepn][:-banghea[:-gnasher[:-headach[:-weepn][:-banghea[:-gnasher[:-headach[:-weepn][:-banghea[:-gnasher[:-headach[:-weepn] Now I've got a foolproof system to create them and remember them. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erby Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 Just a thought: A lot if people won't open an Office Document or Spreadsheet because of the virus possibilities thru macros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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