Marc Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Can anyone tell me where is a cite prohibiting the use of a wood framed support for elevating a water heater off of the floor in a garage location? Thanks. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 There isn't any such prohibition. The requirement is only that the ignition source be elevated. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted October 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 There was a thread a while back that a code forming committee was concerned that a small leak would go undetected until the wood framed support rotted, causing the WH to fall. Maybe it's that old timer's. Turning 56 today. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Happy Birthday Marc. [:-party] A rotten stand? Seriously? A stand needs to be wet to rot and rot doesn't happen overnight. By the time a stand rots out without a water source getting it wet, they'll be on the 60th water heater since the home was built and people will be making bank deposits with brain waves. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Raymond Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Happy birthday! Click to Enlarge 87.99 KB Here's a little help with the candles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgbinspect Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Happy birthday! Click to Enlarge 87.99 KB Here's a little help with the candles! Ah, the candles remind me of a Monty Python episode where the older than dirt character announced a birthday. When one of the other cast members asked if he blew all the candles out, he replied, "I tried to, but the heat drove me back." [:-party] Happy Birthday Marc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Whitmore Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Happy B- Day Marc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Kienitz Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Happy B-Day Marc!! BTW - could not resist the below image ... it was a perfect setup!!! Click to Enlarge 8.88 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpdewitt Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Older than dirt? I was there when the guy said "let there be light". I flipped the switch! Happy B-day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randynavarro Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Feliz Cumpleanos Marc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted October 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Thanks Guys. Got treated to a nice breakfast, great lunch and big dinner. I think I've eaten enough to last through tomorrow! Gracias Randy. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI in AR Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 So the question was a thinly veiled way to announce your birthday?[] Seriously, though, happy birthday Marc. I'm just a little over 5 years behind ya... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted October 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 So the question was a thinly veiled way to announce your birthday?[] Seriously, though, happy birthday Marc. I'm just a little over 5 years behind ya... Actually, No. This was yesterday's inspection.... Click to Enlarge 22.62 KB Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kogel Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Marc, I often see wooden stands under the tank here, usually just a table built from 2 X lumber. Only the gas units need to be elevated in my northern neck of the woods. We can have electric water heaters sitting right on the garage floor. On another note, we don't like to see PEX pipe crimped directly to the tank like that. It is better to have 18" copper stubs there between the tank and the plastic pipe. Edit: That may not be a requirement for electric tanks in your area, but it is usually done that way here. (Nevertheless, I have found electric water heaters with the PEX directly attached with no visible sign of trouble.) Welcome to the 55+ club! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inspector57 Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 It may be a stretch in a garage but I always call out a lack of a drain pan if the structure can be damaged by a leaking heater. This installation is very typical here and it is also quite common to find a water damaged wall and mold since the platforms are always built as part of the wall construction that is the common wall to the house. Water heaters fail because they leak. The structure WILL be damaged every 12-15 years as part of the normal and expected function. The AHJ does not require a pan if the heater is located in the garage (which I could agree with IF it was a metal stand) but if they looked at the code by the intent of preventing damage to the structure, it is pretty easy to support requiring a pan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terence McCann Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Marc, I often see wooden stands under the tank here, usually just a table built from 2 X lumber. Only the gas units need to be elevated in my northern neck of the woods. We can have electric water heaters sitting right on the garage floor. On another note, we don't like to see PEX pipe crimped directly to the tank like that. It is better to have 18" copper stubs there between the tank and the plastic pipe. Welcome to the 55+ club! Happy b-day Marc. Copper stubs would not be necessary on an electric tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted October 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 I recommended the pan. Is there a cite on 18" copper stubs for gas powered units? Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtblum Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 I recommended the pan. Is there a cite on 18" copper stubs for gas powered units? Marc Whose pex is it? They're not all the same. Zurn PEX must be kept at least 6" awayfrom the exhaust vent of a gas-fired water heater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted October 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 I never checked. I just confirmed that it was not orange and blue which may have indicated Kitec. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlieb Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 I'm with Gary. I only know of one manufacturer who approves a direct connection. The manufacturer association installation guidelines state it should have an 18" leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 It all hinges on manufacturer's specs. According to the Plastic Pipe Institute design guide: PEX tubing may be connected directly to residential electric water heaters, if the local code and manufacturerââ¬â¢s instructions allow. When connecting PEX tube to gas water heaters, the tube must be kept at least 6 inches away from the exhaust vent of the heater. Flexible metal water heater connectors may be needed in some instances. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlieb Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 What publication is that from Mike. This is from the 2002 Plastic Pipe and Fitting Association handbook Click to Enlarge 119.4 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlieb Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Well that explains it. I googled the your assoc and found the design guide. Avail for purchase. And why is there more than one assoc? It all goes back to the specific manufacturer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Hi, Yeah, available for purchase but why purchase it when you can download it for free? ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlieb Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Thak ya vey much, now pass the jelly donuts. That's my Elvis impersonation. He was from Tupalo MS after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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