Bill Kibbel Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Unfortunately, I'm usually so focused on major issues in the old buildings that I rarely make the effort to record the interesting, abandoned and forgotten elements that were once important features to the earlier occupants. That being said, here's another one that might generate some creative responses: http://uploads/inspecthistoric/200632520548_whatsit.JPG%20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgbinspect Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Ok, here are my best guesses: 1. fusible links? (guaged wires like in automibiles predating even fuses) 2. A super antiquated system to call the maid or butler from any room (just lights or a bell) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Grandfather of all alarm systems? OT - OF!!! M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Simon Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 I believe that's the main electricl panelboard for the house. By the by, a butler-bell (or I should say the switch for one) is often found in the middle of a dining room floor. For the petite foot of the lady of the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgbinspect Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Yeah, Jerry, A main panel was what I was eluding to with "fusible links" like an automobile has instead of the screw in fuses we're used to seeing. I was guessing that those little stretches of wire or material between the screws are the "fusible links" I just threw the butler call box thing in there because I remember seeing at the Biltmore Estate in Asheville, TN that all 40-some bedrooms had a button that lit a light in the kitchen and any guest could have something brought to their room at any hour. It was a rather elaborate system for its day. If you've never done that tour or the houses in Newport, it's amazing seeing how the Rich and famous lived back then. They had true class. The Vanderbilt libraries were to die for! 1000s of books along with sunken pit reading areas and study rooms. The foyer at the Breakers, went three or four stories up and almost every room on every floor opened to a balcony hallway overlooking the foyer. The entire foyer and the circular stairway was all cut and dressed stone. All the stone columns supporting the balcony were round on the foyer side and squared on the balcony side. Unbelievable Architecture and money. I only saw three of the houses in Newport and that was about 12 years ago. I hope to go back and see more. I finally made it to see Biltmore three years ago. The house had 43 bathrooms and most guests still preferred to use a chamber pot because they were not familiar with and afraid of the bathrooms. In fact, I recall hearing that things were so depressed back then that if you were on the Vanderbilt staff in any capacity, you were approaching "upper crust". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Amaral Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Smells like an antique elevator control relay system? (Call buttons?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul burrell Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Looks like a telephone switch board [:-dunce]. Paul B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bain Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 The photo's a tad grainy, but that appears to be a low voltage system that controls buzzers--similar to doorbells--in each room of a house, so occupants can be signaled singularly or collectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Yeah, I think the object in rhe left end of the box is definitely a buzzer of some sort, it's just a question of what sort. I used to play in the Spingarn mansion at Troutbeck in Amenia, NY as a kid. It had been abandoned for decades at the time. 4 story high, real-timbered Tudor with telephones and wait staff buzzers in every room plus dumbwaiters and an elevator. There were gizmos like that all over the place in the basement. I didn't touch 'em 'cuz I had no idea what they did and I didn't want to get fried. The place is a $1,000 a night B & B and weekend conference center now. Who'd a thunk it? Jeesh Bill, you must go through every day just steeped in nostalgia! ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspectorjoe Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Iââ¬â¢m going out on a limb with this, but it looks like a solenoid activates a plunger that indirectly turns a wooden camshaft. Maybe the shaft is notched in different configurations under what appears to be metal contactors? It looks like the contactors have little adjustment screws for fine tuning. I donââ¬â¢t think the links between the terminals are fusible links, since theyââ¬â¢re in contact with the wooden case, plus it sure looks like a low voltage system. It looks like thereââ¬â¢s a modern wire nut at the top right. Whatââ¬â¢s up with that? As to what it is, my very generic answer is some kind of signal system. Yeah, I sure didnââ¬â¢t go out on a limb with THAT answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Or a controller for a lawn sprinkler system? OT - OF!!! M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kibbel Posted March 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Hint: It's 110-120v. Sorry for the quality, but I must not have had the flash on. Larger image: http://uploads/inspecthistoric/2006326111158_whatsit.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgbinspect Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Well, I'll be darned! The larger view helps a lot! Those are old "shotgun shell style fuses!" Is it simply a service panel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspectorjoe Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Strike #1. OK, how about a remote disconnect, cutting power to all the circuits at the push of a button? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 I'm in the butler bell camp, but it doesn't look like the servants signals I'm familiar with. Some kinda control panel w/a magnet @ the left side that's either a buzzer or a solenoid thingie. Kibbel did it to me again.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Hi, I think the thingy on the left is definitely a solenoid that rotates that wood cam 90° and connects/disconnects those contactors, I just can't imagine what for. The only thing I am sure of is that it's going to be another one of those things I'll feel like an idiot about. OT - OF!!! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspectorjoe Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 I have people waiting for yesterdayââ¬â¢s reports, so what do I do? Go back and stare at that damn picture again! This time I think I got it. Itââ¬â¢s a sequencer for controlling ââ¬Ëchasing lightsââ¬â¢, like on a movie theater marquee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgbinspect Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 I think you're on to something there Joe, but I don't see anything to make it actually "sequence" More it it looks as if atop each fuse is a contact and a tang. So, it appears more to be a simple all circuits on or off device via the shaft that runs the length of the box. To the left at the top it almost looks like a filter more than a coil? and below it kinda looks similar to an automobile generator... so... I'm lost other than the fuses, contacts and tangs. Maybe it turns lights on and off rhythmically for a large sign or something. Seeing the equipment to the left side better would help, but I've stared at it and adjusted the photo quality all I can. I'm done on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terence McCann Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 An early electronic septic tank, no wait, that was the other "guess what it is". As others have said it has a solenoid that rotates a cam that makes and breaks switches. I just don't have a clue as to what all those switches control. Dumb waiter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Amaral Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Weird disconnect operated by that solenoid gizmo at left. Single movement causes all the guys at right to disconnect. But... ? A low-voltage remote control? Because? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisprickett Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Old multi-chime door bell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Fabry Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Don't forget it's 110 volt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgbinspect Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Well, you're a mechanic, Chad. (a shade tree variety here back when electronic ignition, deceleration valves and anti-stall dashpots were about as complicated as it got.) Doesn't that look like a filter top left? I know it makes more sense for it to be a coil, but it doesn't look like one. I can't make out any windings. I can't make heads or tails of the whole assembly on the left side. Wish I could get closer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 It's a coil. There's a shellaced paper wrap around the windings. It's definitely a solenoid or activator of some sort and it's rotating a cam back and forth that is controlling those contactors. The only question is ....for what? Marquee for an old movie theater? OT - OF!!! M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgbinspect Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Ok, well, if it were something like a movie marquee, it should look different than that I would think. That looks to be "all on" and "all off" Hmmmm.... Well, how about a really antiquated controller of the coils of an ancient electric forced air furnace or radiant heating system?.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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