Tom Raymond Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Question for the bug guys. I have what I believe to be a yellow jacket hive in an exterior wall of my house. Do they leave at the end of the season or do they hang out indefinitely? I'd hate to spray them if they are going to leave on their own. What would you do? I'll upload a video clip when I have WiFi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Fabry Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 They stay. At some point they'll turn on you and there will be no angst in your soul when you commit genocide. First they start hitting you in the face, head and ears. That is followed by searing pain as each one stings you multiple times and then for good measure, they actually bite off chunks of your flesh. They are truly assholes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Raymond Posted August 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 So I should have my wife spray them then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Yes. On Valentine's Day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Fabry Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 So I should have my wife spray them then. That's funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Question for the bug guys. I have what I believe to be a yellow jacket hive in an exterior wall of my house. Do they leave at the end of the season or do they hang out indefinitely? I'd hate to spray them if they are going to leave on their own. What would you do? I'll upload a video clip when I have WiFi. The colony will die at the end of the season and you'll be left with a bunch of nesting material and dead bugs in the wall. Sometimes a secondary infestation of mites moves in, but there's little other downside to leaving the nest in place after its dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Fabry Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Question for the bug guys. I have what I believe to be a yellow jacket hive in an exterior wall of my house. Do they leave at the end of the season or do they hang out indefinitely? I'd hate to spray them if they are going to leave on their own. What would you do? I'll upload a video clip when I have WiFi. The colony will die at the end of the season and you'll be left with a bunch of nesting material and dead bugs in the wall. Sometimes a secondary infestation of mites moves in, but there's little other downside to leaving the nest in place after its dead. Does the colony repopulate? I had a three-season infestation in my shed in the spaces between air dried lumber. edit: The queens overwinter with enough eggs to make a new colony, and a few new queens. Just kill the queen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghentjr Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 I had a nest in one corner on the exterior. They come back to that spot every year even though it has been sprayed inside and out. http://www.tcpalm.com/news/local-news/f ... d_60079280 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Baird Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Here they live in the ground but saw one nest where they chewed right through wood lap siding over a doorway. Here I blast them with the long range bombs...usually some scavenger animal will dig the nest up later...hope they don't get sick on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kogel Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Just hit them at dusk with a cup of gasoline, or white gas is better, no stain. Yes most of them die and of course a queen will survive into the Spring, but I don't see them reusing old nests here. They just love to build new. Last week I was on the ladder poking into a cavity where a dormer connects to the main roof, 12:12 pitch, and a half a dozen yellow jackets came rolling out of there. Funny, I've never seen wasps roll before and luckily they were landing in the gutter and not in my shirt pocket. I made a rapid descent. They are not good at tracking you if you stand back and act casual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Breslawski Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 They will overwinter here, depending on the location of the nest. They are trying to get the nest deep enough into the building to find enough heat/protection to keep them alive all winter. Most nests fail to do that, but I've seen them chew through just about any material necessary to get in. I always blast the nests with spray in the early evening or early morning, when most of them have landed. They will keep coming back to the same place. I don't think the spray has much residual effect at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Raymond Posted August 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 They are deep in the wall. My house is double plank and I can hear them behind the drywall. That means they either found a gap or chewed through 3" of solid wood. I wonder if I could a get a shot of the nest with the IR camera... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Breslawski Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 You need to get rid of them. They'll chew through or widen a small gap. You need to kill them and close off the entrance. They will be inside your house soon. They are deep in the wall. My house is double plank and I can hear them behind the drywall. That means they either found a gap or chewed through 3" of solid wood. I wonder if I could a get a shot of the nest with the IR camera... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlparham Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 So I should have my wife spray them then. Yes. While you are out of town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Question for the bug guys. I have what I believe to be a yellow jacket hive in an exterior wall of my house. Do they leave at the end of the season or do they hang out indefinitely? I'd hate to spray them if they are going to leave on their own. What would you do? I'll upload a video clip when I have WiFi. The colony will die at the end of the season and you'll be left with a bunch of nesting material and dead bugs in the wall. Sometimes a secondary infestation of mites moves in, but there's little other downside to leaving the nest in place after its dead. Does the colony repopulate? I had a three-season infestation in my shed in the spaces between air dried lumber. edit: The queens overwinter with enough eggs to make a new colony, and a few new queens. Just kill the queen. The original queen dies in the fall. Dozens of new queens leave the nest and overwinter elsewhere, not in the original nest site. If you're getting infestations in the same place year after year, it's because that's an attractive place for a new queen to start a new nest in the spring. The queens are "programmed" to look for certain qualities in a nest site and your shed has those qualities. It doesn't matter if you sprayed the area the previous year. The spray has no residual effect that I know of. In the south, it's a different story. Some species there can sustain a nest for multiple years. As far as I know, none of the northern species can do that - even in protected areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 . . . They are not good at tracking you if you stand back and act casual. They'll zone in on you more readily if you're wearing dark clothing. Also, some recent research suggests that when they attack you, they're also "marking" you with a chemical that tells the other members of the nest that you're a target. So if you get stung a few times and run away (you can outrun them), they can still find you and even pick you out from others in a group of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dirks Jr Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Recently, I poked a ground nest with my probe tool while checking deck posts for rot. They came at me as I ran across the yard beating myself all over. I busted my glasses which were hanging on my shirt. They got me with about a dozen stings before it was all over. Up my pants leg and down my waste line. Those two got me several times before I successfully smashed them under my pants. The buyer had a 3 year old son who would have been playing out there eventually. I'm glad I found the nest before he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Raymond Posted August 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Got a good Delta to take some IR pics. The entrance is pretty disappointing, just a little blip. Click to Enlarge 14.29 KB From inside things are a little more exciting. Click to Enlarge 14.17 KB For scale, the vertical line to the right of the hive is a 5" casing and a 2" sash rail, plus about an inch for the jamb liner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 I'd suggest just leaving them alone and letting the nest die off when the cold weather comes. If you spray them and don't kill them, they'll panic, chew through the wall, and get into the house. If you leave them alone, they'll have little reason to try to chew through the drywall. Mid winter, plug up the hole to prevent them from starting a new nest in the same spot. If you want, cut out the drywall and remove the debris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kogel Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 A house last week had nest building all over it. Under the lid of the propane can is a favorite spot for some reason. I took this pic, then decided to flip this nest off with my trusty dagger. Better than writing it up and more gratifying, too. Then up on the roof, 2 more nests. Well they can have the fake chimney for now. I ain't running on a 8 in 12 roof. My clients will be all freaked out when they go to paint up there. Maybe paint next year, yeah that's a better plan. [] Click to Enlarge 56.96 KB Click to Enlarge 33.99 KB Click to Enlarge 52.13 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 A house last week had nest building all over it. Under the lid of the propane can is a favorite spot for some reason. I took this pic, then decided to flip this nest off with my trusty dagger. Better than writing it up and more gratifying, too. Then up on the roof, 2 more nests. Well they can have the fake chimney for now. I ain't running on a 8 in 12 roof. My clients will be all freaked out when they go to paint up there. Maybe paint next year, yeah that's a better plan. [] Click to Enlarge 56.96 KB Click to Enlarge 33.99 KB Click to Enlarge 52.13 KB You do realize that those aren't yellow jackets, right? Those are Polistes paper wasps. They've very docile and have much smaller nests that yellow jackets. Their nests also have open combs with no outer covering. They're very beneficial insects and rarely sting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdhutch Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Here is Southeast Georgia we get frequent calls about wasps, bees, and other stinging insects. If the culprits are bees, we call in a bee keeper to extract them from the house. If they are wasp, a can of wasp freeze usually solves the problem. Yellow Jackets are aggressive but rarely nest inside a home. However, when they do, we drill small holes through the sheet rock (quietly) and inject a pesticide dust (Drione) to kill them. We try to do it during the evening when most of the workers have returned to the nest. Once they are dead we cut out a section of the sheetrock and extract the mess. My advice, call an expert like you would for anything else on your house that you are not familiar with. These critters can be deadly if provoked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lamb Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 This is the remnant of a very large wasp's nest I found in a crawlspace today. I have seen them bigger than beach balls in crawl spaces. Click to Enlarge 39.65 KB Click to Enlarge 104.48 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Raymond Posted September 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 The wife wanted them gone, so I sprayed them. I used a foaming spray with a 6" wand, half a can in the morning and half at night. Two cans in two days. No bees for a week. I actually saw a new queen enter the hive yesterday. Round two starts in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 The wife wanted them gone, so I sprayed them. I used a foaming spray with a 6" wand, half a can in the morning and half at night. Two cans in two days. No bees for a week. I actually saw a new queen enter the hive yesterday. Round two starts in the morning. Bees or yellow jackets? Out here, the queens haven't yet emerged. Is your weather getting cold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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