Robert Jones Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Is there a technical name for this cap? The one in front of the soap rack. Click to Enlarge 23.39 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidlord Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 That would be an escutcheon I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 U baleev kerekt, Bro! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTL_Inspet_Man Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 escutcheon - that would be the proper shakespearean name. I call it a trim ring............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Fabry Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 I call it a trim ring You can call it that, it's a free North America. My son used to call the masonary [sic] stack that channels smoke away from the home a chimmelstick'. The only down side to that was no one knew what the hell he was talking about. Say trim ring to me and I think of a stainless steel ring surrounding a baby moon whose main purpose is to conceal wheel weights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTL_Inspet_Man Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Unfortunately we live in Quebec where there are 2 official languages French and English. So I need to be able to produce reports in both languages. As such trim ring with a picture ... and usually clients get it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Well, it's from an Anglo-Norman, i.e., French, form, derived of a vulgar Latin word for shield, scutio. French folks would probably understand escutcheon. Go for it. If they complain, tell 'em it's their word, not ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtblum Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Same name for door hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Raymond Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I love these silly semantics discussions. Our job is to effectively communicate with our clients, so you could call it a do-hicky as long as they know what the hell you are talking about. That said I would, and do so regularly, use escutcheon. I recently had a builder return a patio door handle that he received damaged. I called my supplier and told the factory rep that the escutcheon was dented, there were several seconds of silence before he asked,"so you need a new handle?" Even people who should know this stuff don't. Tom Oh yeah, baby moons and trim rings are sweet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtblum Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 As it turns out, that thingy is actually called a flange. Not an escutcheon. For door hardware, it's a rosette. If I'm not mistaken again, the difference would be, that an escutcheon is also part of the frame work of the componant. A rosette or flange is in fact, a trim ring. Google escutcheon vs flange. They are different parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Fabry Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Flange \Flange\ (fl[a^]nj), n. [Prov. E. flange to project, flanch a projection. See Flanch, Flank.] 1. An external or internal rib, or rim, for strength, as the flange of an iron beam; or for a guide, as the flange of a car wheel (see Car wheel.); or for attachment to another object, as the flange on the end of a pipe, steam cylinder, etc. --Knight. [1913 Webster] Main Entry: es·cutch·eon Pronunciation: \is-#712;k#601;-ch#601;nFunction: noun Etymology: Middle English escochon, from Anglo-French escuchoun, from Vulgar Latin *scution-, scutio, from Latin scutum shield ââ¬â more at esquire Date: 15th century 1 : a defined area on which armorial bearings are displayed and which usually consists of a shield 2 : a protective or ornamental plate or flange (as around a keyhole) 3 : the part of a ship's stern on which the name is displayed I'm pretty sure I'll still be calling it an escutcheon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I sometimes run the risk of the frau kicking this curmudgeon in the escutcheon. [:-wiltel] OT - OF!!! M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtblum Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Flange \Flange\ (fl[a^]nj), n. [Prov. E. flange to project, flanch a projection. See Flanch, Flank.] 1. An external or internal rib, or rim, for strength, as the flange of an iron beam; or for a guide, as the flange of a car wheel (see Car wheel.); or for attachment to another object, as the flange on the end of a pipe, steam cylinder, etc. --Knight. [1913 Webster] Main Entry: es·cutch·eon Pronunciation: \is-#712;k#601;-ch#601;nFunction: noun Etymology: Middle English escochon, from Anglo-French escuchoun, from Vulgar Latin *scution-, scutio, from Latin scutum shield ââ¬â more at esquire Date: 15th century 1 : a defined area on which armorial bearings are displayed and which usually consists of a shield 2 : a protective or ornamental plate or flange (as around a keyhole) 3 : the part of a ship's stern on which the name is displayed I'm pretty sure I'll still be calling it an escutcheon. I saw all of that too. The kid digging through the parts catalog won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 "I saw all of that too. The kid digging through the parts catalog won't." gimme' the chrome ring thing. the ring that looks like your "ear" ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Gardner Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I just push it back in place so I don't have to say anything....[:-tong2] Wayne G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Gary, I did the google that you suggested. It reconciles with DavidLord's post near the top of the thread. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I just push it back in place so I don't have to say anything....[:-tong2] Wayne G It ain't a flange, it's an escutcheon. Trim rings go on recessed light cans and automobile hubcaps; it ain't a trim ring. When we start mixing up definitions in this extremely "part description" intensive gig that we do, we confuse everyone, including our customers and ourselves. If it's OK to change words around, then it's OK to call a GEC a wiring safety device, or a window sash a frame. It's not OK to make up our own words; if we do that, then nothing means anything, and we're behaving like all those doof's that we excoriate on a daily basis. And, I do exactly what Wayne does. That's a smart HI. "Words mean things".............Walter Jowers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtblum Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Gary, I did the google that you suggested. It reconciles with DavidLord's post near the top of the thread. Marc My bad, Marc. Google shower head parts instead, and look through the catalogs. Then do the same for locksets. What triggered this for me was, thinking about the different locksets I've installed in schools and hospitals Ect. The plates on a mortise lockset are also part of the assembly. They're escutcheons. The part that the rosette covers on a standard type of lockset is also an escutcheon. It's more about correcting my error in saying they were the same. Call them what you want. The manufacturers do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Raymond Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I sometimes run the risk of the frau kicking this curmudgeon in the escutcheon. [:-wiltel] OT - OF!!! M. You sport a name tag on your transom?[:-monkeyd Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Raymond Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I just push it back in place so I don't have to say anything....[:-tong2] Wayne G It ain't a flange, it's an escutcheon. Trim rings go on recessed light cans and automobile hubcaps; it ain't a trim ring. When we start mixing up definitions in this extremely "part description" intensive gig that we do, we confuse everyone, including our customers and ourselves. If it's OK to change words around, then it's OK to call a GEC a wiring safety device, or a window sash a frame. It's not OK to make up our own words; if we do that, then nothing means anything, and we're behaving like all those doof's that we excoriate on a daily basis. And, I do exactly what Wayne does. That's a smart HI. "Words mean things".............Walter Jowers I totally agree, but I can't even begin to count how many times the use of the word escutcheon specifically has gone right over people's heads, including people who sell the damn things. It elicits the 'deer in the headlights' look, or the giggles like I just said a dirty word in the company of children. Most people don't know what an escutcheon is, and except for us HI's, the rest don't care. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtblum Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 When we start mixing up definitions in this extremely "part description" intensive gig that we do, we confuse everyone, including our customers and ourselves. If it's OK to change words around, then it's OK to call a GEC a wiring safety device, or a window sash a frame. It's not OK to make up our own words; if we do that, then nothing means anything, and we're behaving like all those doof's that we excoriate on a daily basis. And, I do exactly what Wayne does. That's a smart HI. "Words mean things".............Walter Jowers Didn't see this earlier. Perfect! Google shower head parts and see if you find one of these in any of the catalogs that's called anything but a flange. Then look at the escutcheons. Different animal. Hmm. Yup, "It's not OK to make up our own words;" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kibbel Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Gary, this is the first page that showed up in my search: http://www.everyfaucet.com/Escutcheons-C22863.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Great! Just call everything related to plumbing that's round with a hole in the middle an escutcheon and we have our quietus for this thread. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI in AR Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Call me a curmudgeon if it makes you happy, but I've always called it an escutcheon and always will. That's what it is! Frankly, I'm damned tired of being told that I should (in effect) "dumb down" reports to cater to the least educated among my clients. As I see it, escutcheon is a useful word not only applied to plumbing trim. Come on now...would it kill a buyer to Google the word if they are not familiar with it? Even that would be optional...after all, there is (presumably) a photo in the report that shows the part in question. Sheesh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtblum Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Gary, this is the first page that showed up in my search: http://www.everyfaucet.com/Escutcheons-C22863.html Hi Bill, I'd call those escutcheons too. These are different. http://plumbing.hardwarestore.com/51-29 ... ccess.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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