Denray 2 Report post Posted January 5 Hardly ever have my LG ladder out and fully extended anymore. I know, it's sad. But I did have it extended the other day and it sure looked tweaked. Been over a year since I used it professionally and I just don't remember it having this much of a hyper back joint bend to it. Is this just the way they are and no big deal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Katen 44 Report post Posted January 6 I've never owned a Little Giant, but neither of my Werners hyperextends like that. I'd stress test it and see whether or not that center joint is moving. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erby 14 Report post Posted January 6 I'd think that, as long as the pins are properly locked in their holes, it isn't going anywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Jardine 0 Report post Posted January 6 Both of my Werner ladders hyperextend like this. One of them is less than 6 months old and the other is 7+ years old. Never had an issue from either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimK 0 Report post Posted January 7 I'm in agreement with Jardine. My Werner does this to about that same extent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chad Fabry 22 Report post Posted January 7 My ladders aren't like that and it would bother me if they were. I have an aversion to falling because my equipment failed. I see a lot of guys who don't set their ladders up at the correct angles- they're way too horizontally. Aluminum doesn't like being bent and, for the ladder to be over extended at it's center pivot, something got bent. It doesn't matter what we say- send the photos to Little Giant and ask for their opinion. I'm sure they've tested dozens of ladders to failure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Denray 2 Report post Posted January 7 LG boy said it was fine? I'll set it up when it quits raining and check it out a little more thoroughly, like Jim mentioned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Kogel 22 Report post Posted January 7 Denny, wear a helmet. The rest of you Werners users, get a Jaws ladder. Seriously, I bought a Jaws from a retiring inspector, and it will never over extend like that. Also, the top section can easily be removed, making the ladder light and strong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Denray 2 Report post Posted January 8 Here's the cause. Holes and or pins get worn out. Even though they have a lifetime warranty the LG rep said they are fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Katen 44 Report post Posted January 8 12 hours ago, John Kogel said: Denny, wear a helmet. The rest of you Werners users, get a Jaws ladder. Seriously, I bought a Jaws from a retiring inspector, and it will never over extend like that. Also, the top section can easily be removed, making the ladder light and strong. As far as I know, we can't buy Jaws ladders south of the border. I'd have to drive up to BC to pick one up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Les 24 Report post Posted January 8 Denny, I would not use it. But I am old and, like Chad, have an aversion to falling. Biggest field issue I have with inspectors is their use of ladders. Always too horizontal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Raymond 17 Report post Posted January 8 I would tell the rep to climb it first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marc 36 Report post Posted January 8 (edited) 18 hours ago, Denray said: Here's the cause. Holes and or pins get worn out. Even though they have a lifetime warranty the LG rep said they are fine. I'd be concerned with that much wear, regardless of what the manufacturer said. It's me that's climbing up the thing. What Tom said. Edited January 8 by Marc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Kogel 22 Report post Posted January 9 21 hours ago, Jim Katen said: As far as I know, we can't buy Jaws ladders south of the border. I'd have to drive up to BC to pick one up. You're welcome to visit us anytime, Jim, but I found a US website here: https://www.idealproductusa.com/Catalog-of-products/Jaws-Ladders.shtml The knuckle joint locks into position with tapered teeth and two big wingnuts hold the jaws tight. The picture show a gal with her ladder angle way off. She could use a hand. 😎 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Katen 44 Report post Posted January 9 They don't carry the 13-footer, which is my favorite length. They also don't take online orders. For now, I'm fine with my Werners. But if I ever need another, I'll definitely give them a call. Look at the gal in the picture again. She's using it in an unequal step ladder mode. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Katen 44 Report post Posted January 9 One of the problems with that much wear in the joint is that the fully extended ladder wants to rock back & forth across its range of movement. Several years ago, someone posted a video of a guy who fell for exactly that reason. He had the ladder sticking up several feet above the edge of the roof and as he climbed it, he pushed forward on the top of the ladder, which caused the top to rock forward, the middle to rock out, and the bottom to pop out from under him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Raymond 17 Report post Posted January 9 Everyone in the inspector groups on Facebook always recommended the 17' little giant or Werner. I find that size hard to handle. It's too big when I need a small ladder and too short when I need a big one. I carry 300# rated Werner folders, 15' and 22'. If I need to make more than one trip or plan to spend more than a few minutes at height I grab a real extension ladder. They are far more comfortable to hang out on, and easier to set up. I wouldn't be worried about Denny's ladder as a step, but I wouldn't be comfortable on it fully extended. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
