Mike Lamb Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 These trees grow in alleys all over Chicagoland and if left alone become gargantuan menaces to fences and garages. They can grow six or 8 feet in just one summer. Does anyone know the name of these things? Click to Enlarge 61.12 KB Click to Enlarge 59.62 KB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Simon Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 These trees grow in alleys all over Chicagoland and if left alone become gargantuan menaces to fences and garages. They can grow six or 8 feet in just one summer. Does anyone know the name of these things? Click to Enlarge 61.12 KB Click to Enlarge 59.62 KB Be-leaf it or not, I was told those are actually some sort of weed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark P Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 I think they are called " Tree of Heaven" they gow like weeds along fence lines and other places lawnmowers don't get to well. They are a real pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkenney Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Hard to identify a tree without seeing the foliage. Do the leaves look like this: Mimosa - big problem around here, grows anywhere like a weed self rooting. Category II Invasive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lamb Posted April 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Hard to identify a tree without seeing the foliage. Do the leaves look like this: Mimosa - big problem around here, grows anywhere like a weed self rooting. Category II Invasive No. That's not it. I do believe it is a big ass weed tho. I hope to have leaves around here in a few weeks. Chicago won't shake off the winter yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kogel Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Poplar Elderberry. Box Elder has rough bark, Les. Google 'Elderberry bark', looks like a possible match. We have elderberry here that grows like stink. The blue berries are good for wine, so they say. The Red berries are good for nothing. They are both females. [] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 sure looks like a box elder to me. Wait until it has leaves then you can be sure, There is a female type and a male type; one is larger and smarter than the other! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Simon Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Poplar Elderberry. Box Elder has rough bark, Les. Google 'Elderberry bark', looks like a possible match. We have elderberry here that grows like stink. The blue berries are good for wine, so they say. The Red berries are good for nothing. They are both females. [] Those aren't elderberry. I have a close, evil relationship with such, and would know one from a mile away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Raymond Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Agreed. I have an elderberry in my yard and it looks nothing like Lambs tree. I haven't had elderberry wine in ages. My shrub throws just enough berries for a pie, if I get to 'em before the birds do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtblum Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Because of where it is and the type of bark, my guess would be a sumac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Baird Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Looks like Ailanthus sp. or Pawlonia sp. to me. Lots of weed type trees. Chinaberry (don't have the genus for that one) maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottpat Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 I was going to say a Chinaberry or Cottonwood tree, aka Trashish treeis sp. Some locus trees have bark like that also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Fabry Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Alder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 No, Mulberry. They're weed trees. Some squirrel or rat shit out a seed along the fence, they grow. Yes, 8' of sucker growth in a year is not unheard of. I've cut those things down to flush stumps, and they grow back as bushes. I've put 50 lbs. of rock salt on the stump, and they grow through the salt. Hack it down to nothing, and poison it. It's the only thing that kills it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottpat Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 Well it obvious that none of us are moonlighting as Arborist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kibbel Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 Not mature enough to be 100% positive, but it's probably the White Mulberry. Unlike the native Red Mulberry, it's considered an invasive species. I did some research on a silk mill building and read about the introduction of the Red Mulberry. It was brought from China when there were major efforts to establish silk industries in this area in the late 18th century. Seeds are spread quickly by many types of critters and it grows very rapidly. It has spread to all Continental States. Like Mike's description, they grow like weeds even after becoming a tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kogel Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 Not mature enough to be 100% positive, but it's probably the White Mulberry. Bill, I haven't thought of you being immature, but if you say so ... [] Click to Enlarge 63.58 KBThis mulberry bark looks rough, but if you look closer, there are the horizontal scars, alright. Kurt got it, hands on experience with the young shoots. I had the berry part so I was half right. I danced around the mulberry bush a few times when I was a kid, but don't recall ever seeing one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 I'm sticking with Pawlina or box elder. The leaves will tell. If I'm wrong, then I thought it was a red mullberry tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 Nah, it's a mulberry. They're everywhere in Chicago. Morus alba. If you have an iPad, get LeafsnapHD. It's an amazingly cool tree identification app. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allseason Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 Tree of Heaven: Alanthus altisima Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allseason Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Upon closer examination I believe Kurt is right. Mullberry. Alanthus has a smooth bark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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